i have a background in education. jon: and your husband has a degree in economics -- >> he does. jon: and when, when you went to him and said that you wanted to, what, expand the line? >> yeah. he said to me, you can't keep doing this yourself. so we decided to really in earnest make an attempt to make this become a company, and we've been very successful with it, and it's been a ton of fun. jon: again, i just find it so fascinating because you took aspects of things you're interested in, for instance, equestrian events, and decided that that might be kind of an interesting business. >> it is. it's a niche that we found in the market, and we felt that there was a need out there for the american-made products that was being bench made and made by hand with lots of integrity in a very authentic brand. and we did find that the niche we suspected was out there is, indeed, there, and our clients are very loyal to us. jon: and your workers are primarily amish, is that correct? >> they are. we've been able to give jobs to quite a few women in our local community as well as in eastern pe